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They just got back from a sex date, landscape architect and NatureOptimist Thijs de Zeeuw and the young speculative designer, bio-artist and dentist Kuang-Yi Ku tell us. They’re talking about the interview they just had with the coordinator of the penguins at Artis. For the design-research project Making Love in the Zoo, which De Zeeuw submitted to the Building Talent grant scheme, he also had a date, on a professional level that is. A match where the experienced De Zeeuw and the young talent Ku find and complement each other."